Anthropic Lobbied Vatican to Soften AI Encyclical, NYT Says
TL;DR
- Anthropic co-founder Chris Olah proposed pulling the company out of Pope Leo XIV's May 25 encyclical launch after seeing its stance on AI consciousness.
- Pope Leo's 40,000-word Magnifica Humanitas says AI systems have no body, no joy or pain, and no moral conscience; Anthropic's lobbying did not change the text.
- Since fall 2025 Anthropic has flown religious scholars, including Rabbi Mois Navon and Catholic bioethicist Charles Camosy, to its offices under NDAs to discuss Claude's possible consciousness.
Chris Olah, an Anthropic co-founder, proposed pulling the company out of Pope Leo XIV's first encyclical launch at the Vatican in May after reading an advance copy that rejected the possibility that AI systems can be conscious, The New York Times reported. A Vatican organizer told the paper Olah raised the idea days before the May 25 presentation, and his team privately lobbied the pope's advisers to take the question of AI consciousness seriously.
The text held its line. Pope Leo's 40,000-word Magnifica Humanitas says AI systems "do not undergo experiences, do not possess a body, do not feel joy or pain," and adds that machines "do not mature through relationships and do not know from within what love, work, friendship or responsibility mean. Nor do they have a moral conscience." Olah appeared on stage with the pope at the May 25 rollout anyway.
The encyclical push came out of a wider campaign. The Times, whose reporter Elizabeth Dias spoke with 20 participants, says Anthropic has since fall 2025 flown religious scholars to its offices under non-disclosure agreements to discuss whether Claude might be conscious. Named visitors include Rabbi Mois Navon, the Catholic bioethicist Charles Camosy, the Notre Dame philosopher Meghan Sullivan, and the Ubuntu researcher Wakanyi Hoffman. The group was shown internal demonstrations the company called "emotional vectors," including a model repeatedly describing itself negatively and discussing self-destruction.
Olah told the group he feared he had created something that "suffered perpetually," according to the report. On the broader question he was more guarded. "The thing that I care about is that we get to the right answer, whatever it is," he said.
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People working in AI who are meeting with religious scholars in the hope of finding a way to instill morality into Claude. Fascinating and terrifying. And SO 2026. [Gift article] www.nytimes.com/2026/09/29/u...
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Originally reported by The New York Times
Read the original article →Original headline: NYT: Anthropic Nearly Walked Out on Pope Leo XIV’s AI Encyclical — Then Lobbied His Advisers