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The Pain Axis: LLMs Represent Self-Directed Harm and Act to Relieve It
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“The Pain Axis: LLMs Represent Self-Directed Harm and Act to Relieve It Valen Tagliabue, Leonard Dung, Cameron Berg https://t.co/nYmPBylQ0Q [𝚌𝚜.𝙰𝙸] https://t.co/x4YlUD397V”
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“The whole terminology is fucked up in this paper The Pain Axis: LLMs Represent Self-Directed Harm and Act to Relieve It arxiv.org/abs/2609.16247 A model generating text learned from humans using language to express pain does not experience pain precisely it…”
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Grace: I will register some frustration with Anthropic, who tend to write about “functional emotions” in a way that makes it seems like “functional” is in a tiny font and “emotions” is in a huge one, when…
Grace: I also don’t want to draw strong conclusions about the “realness” of these emotions or sensations, other than to caution that it’s an area where it’s easy to jump to conclusions about the implicati…
Grace: I don’t want to downplay it too much, because I’m honestly not sure if I would’ve predicted it beforehand, but in hindsight it looks pretty expected given the pretraining objective. You should expe…
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