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TDD agent loop value debate

TDD inside the agent loop - theater or actual value?

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“Is TDD worth it when coding with AI agents? No, TDD is a process that doesn't seem to “come natural” to models. It's like an uphill battle against the training data, and takes a lot of iterations on a prompt to get it to follow the process most of the time.…” evidence ↗
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“Is TDD worth it when coding with AI agents? No, TDD is a process that doesn't seem to “come natural” to models. It's like an uphill battle against the training data, and takes a lot of iterations on a prompt to get it to follow the process most of the time.…”

““I think at this point there is generally more and more evidence that being overly specific about how we want a model to do something is not a sustainable approach. Instead, we should find as many ways as we can to monitor the outcomes and give feedback.” m…”

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Sung Kim: Is TDD worth it when coding with AI agents? No, TDD is a process that doesn't seem to “come natural” to models. It's like an uphill battle against the training data, and takes a lot of iterations o…
Simon Willison: Interesting result, but this kind of experiment is always hard to be confident about because so much depends on the details - in this case it looks to be a comparison between these two quite length…
Simon Willison: Recent prompt guidelines from Anthropic and OpenAI recommend less detailed rules and more "use your own judgement", since the models are stricter rule followers and are hence likely to focus on the…
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15 experts · 40 posts · 19h ago
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“You released a surprise project that spread a lot of joy and humor, and people drag you for HOW you made it? There are conversations that are needed about appropriate AI usage, and finding the bala…” evidence ↗
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Grace: He's upfront with when he uses AI, so you can trust he's upfront with when he doesn't
mackuba.eu: Please just stop…
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3 experts · 58 posts · 1d ago
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“yeah. I would def be evaluating alternate models if my org let me, but right now my spend is an assumed part of our Anthropic commit” evidence ↗
Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真): for an engineer like me who is maximally using Sonnet, and hasn't yet switched to a local model, it's about $6k a month, or $72k a year. it is a very very hefty fraction of the salary, & is going t…
Liz Fong-Jones (方禮真): this is definitely not technology that, at the moment, you want put in the hands of the average white-collar worker right now, you'd be better off just hiring more workers, rather than pay for the …
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3 experts · 7 posts · 6d ago
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“it's not any one experiment, there's converging evidence that the localization of evidence accumulation for different kinds of decision-making is pretty distributed in the brain, not in general dep…” evidence ↗
austin: human narration of their own chain of thought is also not reliable 🫨
Matt Darling: human narration of their own chain of thought is also not reliable 🫨
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