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Casey Fiesler on why LLMs don't really cite their sources

6 experts · 30 posts · 12d ago
Thomas Dietterich Casey Fiesler Luke Stark Eileen Clancy 🧿 Prof. Catherine Flick D. Hicks
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“Therefore, the possible failure mode here isn't just fabricated citations - a model can include a real paper in a real journal by a real author, but be *completely* wrong about what it says. The ci…” evidence ↗
Reaction converging Research & technical analysis · 4
Casey Fiesler: Particularly in the context of (appropriate) crackdowns on LLM-generated papers (e.g., on arXiv) and more and more tales of fabricated citations, two reminders: (1) LLMs do not "cite their sources"…
Casey Fiesler: A common comment on my videos about LLM "hallucinations" is that this isn't as much of a problem because LLMs "cite their sources" now. This is a category error. Citing a source implies it was cons…
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5 experts · 8 posts · 8d ago
Timnit Gebru Joshua Grochow Jed Brown Veni Kunche Abstract Tesseract
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“You gotta hand it to OpenAI, billing this as a *partnership* between OpenAI & Hugging Face when what actually happened was Hugging Face finding out that OpenAI was using a bunch of bots to exploit …” evidence ↗
Timnit Gebru: You gotta hand it to OpenAI, billing this as a *partnership* between OpenAI & Hugging Face when what actually happened was Hugging Face finding out that OpenAI was using a bunch of bots to exploit …
Timnit Gebru: Reading that whole OpenAI post describing them unleashing a bunch of bots on Hugging Face as an "unprecedented cyber incident," is a master class in marketing. Lol and branding what happened as Ope…
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4 experts · 12 posts · 12d ago
Shannon Vallor Matthew Kirschenbaum Jake Browning Joshua Grochow
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“It bothers me how many AI critics are failing to keep their critiques aligned with where the models actually are. I hate to give it to the haters (of the haters), but good criticism has to get clos…” evidence ↗
Shannon Vallor: It bothers me how many AI critics are failing to keep their critiques aligned with where the models actually are. I hate to give it to the haters (of the haters), but good criticism has to get clos…
Shannon Vallor: I have deep sympathy—you don’t want to stay close to something that you are watching erode your students’ capacities and confidence in real time, or that’s capturing your government, or undermining…
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3 experts · 5 posts · 4d ago
Eugene Vinitsky Joshua Grochow Singularity's Bounty e/cc
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“If you're involving an LLM in paper writing / generation, your standard of care needs to be higher not lower! It's an under-tested technology which brings new risks” evidence ↗
Multiple readings Concern & critique · 1 Research & technical analysis · 1
Eugene Vinitsky: If you're involving an LLM in paper writing / generation, your standard of care needs to be higher not lower! It's an under-tested technology which brings new risks
Eugene Vinitsky: You can use the time you "saved" to check your paper more if you're going to do this
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4 experts · 4 posts · 14d ago
Kelsey Hightower Joshua Grochow Jed Brown Veni Kunche
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“Yes! I've been saying treat the LLM as a threat actor (in the context of agents or otherwise). Independent from security, uncorrected LLM-based errors can effect professional misconduct with career…” evidence ↗
Multiple readings Concern & critique · 1 Markets & investment · 1
Kelsey Hightower: I talk to a lot of startups building security tools for AI agents, and my advice to all of them is, treat AI agents like malware. Even if agents provide a lot of value to those who use them, agents…
Veni Kunche: I talk to a lot of startups building security tools for AI agents, and my advice to all of them is, treat AI agents like malware. Even if agents provide a lot of value to those who use them, agents…
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