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Procedural Knowledge in Pretraining Drives Reasoning in Large Language Models

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“this is one of my favorite papers, similar method. It convinced me a that LLMs weren’t merely autocompleting they showed that EVEN WHEN the answer to a math problem was present in the dataset, the agent didn’t reference it, but rather looked at problems wit…” evidence ↗
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“this is one of my favorite papers, similar method. It convinced me a that LLMs weren’t merely autocompleting they showed that EVEN WHEN the answer to a math problem was present in the dataset, the agent didn’t reference it, but rather looked at problems wit…”

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Tim Kellogg: this is only stuff you can do on open models not just open weights, but fully open models with open datasets this stuff is extremely important, and we know next to nothing about it
Tim Kellogg: this is one of my favorite papers, similar method. It convinced me a that LLMs weren’t merely autocompleting they showed that EVEN WHEN the answer to a math problem was present in the dataset, the …
Tim Kellogg: that one paper got me off the AI skeptic route and pushed me a lot deeper into how LLMs actually work and again, without being able to cross reference the training dataset, methods like this simply…
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Ryan Moulton: We are not going to de novo invent a whole new language to describe agents rather than reusing the one language for agents we have. Imagine a star next to all the words if you want. Agents don't ha…
Ryan Moulton: Love is a bit unusual in that respect in that the difference between "outwardly displays all the behaviors of love" and "inwardly feels it" matters a lot to people. That distinction doesn't matter …
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