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Multiple readings Hugging face model evaluation security incident Concern & critique · 5 attributable reactions Multiple readings Words matter damnit fc883733a729 Concern & critique · 2 attributable reactions
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Established Evaluation & benchmarks Signal 14d ago
⚡ 1 h early

Hugging face model evaluation security incident

22 experts across 6 network communities independently surfaced this.

Why this matches Context & explanation reaction 1 attributable expert contribution · Grace
“This headline is extremely funny given what happened (OpenAI hacked HF by accident) openai.com/index/huggin...” evidence ↗
22 experts 6 communities 1 sources clustered
Ethan Mollick Thomas Steinke Jeffrey P. Bigham Eryk Salvaggio Mor Naaman Tim Kellogg Djamé 🟥 Deedy Das +14
6 experts discussed this · 11 posts
Grace: This headline is extremely funny given what happened (OpenAI hacked HF by accident) openai.com/index/huggin...
Grace: Maybe the most concerning part is the OpenAI claim to not have known about this before investigating?
Grace: Well, I think the model passed the test
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Primary source openai.com ↗
Established Safety & security Analysis 6d ago
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cybernetic forests X Y reframing essay

It's Not Just X. It's Y.

5 experts across 2 network communities independently surfaced this.

Why this matches Context & explanation reaction 1 attributable expert contribution · Eryk Salvaggio
“One of them is RLVR, which I’ve written about here as clearly as I could, albeit in a different context: mail.cyberneticforests.com/its-not-just...” evidence ↗
5 experts 2 communities 1 sources clustered
Eryk Salvaggio Luke Stark Mél Hogan / The Data Fix Pavel Stefanie Hane

“One of them is RLVR, which I’ve written about here as clearly as I could, albeit in a different context: mail.cyberneticforests.com/its-not-just...”

“Not using AI? You must pay an AI company $$$ to certify you, and then accept their AI-generated recommendations for how to not sound like AI.”

5 experts discussed this · 23 posts
Eryk Salvaggio: This may be considered spicy but as someone who wrote a paper in 2022 that put this idea into the world (re: image models) the LLM is not merely reflecting what people say on the Internet anymore; …
Eryk Salvaggio: It parrots the structure of how we discuss ideas to arrive at conclusions. They have abstracted that form of conversation into something a model can work with. But "it was obviously in the training…
Eryk Salvaggio: But all that is pretty confusing if you're stuck on the idea that language is thinking. The paradigm shift is that these models made unthinking erudition possible, and we have to grapple with under…
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Established AI field signal Signal 20d ago
⚡ 99 h early

Words matter damnit fc883733a729

4 experts across 3 network communities independently surfaced this.

Why this matches Context & explanation reaction 1 attributable expert contribution · Jeff (Gutenberg Parenthesis) Jarvis
“Here's what I wrote inspired by that after-the-show conversation: medium.com/whither-news...” evidence ↗
4 experts 3 communities 1 sources clustered
Eryk Salvaggio Jeff (Gutenberg Parenthesis) Jarvis Alex Hern Colin
3 experts discussed this · 15 posts
Eryk Salvaggio: I genuinely have no idea what Jeff Jarvis is arguing here. Is he arguing for the right to select the words we use? Because we do not select individual words when using an LLM. Is he concerned about…
Benjamin Riley: Great example of how not understanding how these things work can lead to a presumably well-intentioned but totally misguided perspective.
Eryk Salvaggio: My sense is that this might be about the devaluing of the craft of writing and word choice, but the selection criteria of words for a language model is already doing that: language already shows up…
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Primary source medium.com ↗
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6 experts · 15 posts · 6d ago
Shannon Vallor Eryk Salvaggio Ali Alkhatib VE, cybersocial occult investigator Amy Hoy Abstract Tesseract
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“in other words: it IS interesting that the llms did this, but on a scale of 1 to “zomg AI CIVILIZATION RISE and FALL” it’s like a 3” evidence ↗
Multiple readings Questions & unknowns · 1 Context & explanation · 1
Ali Alkhatib: ... what the hell are these people talking about?
Ali Alkhatib: on the criticism of excessively anthropomorphic language (see pic)
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