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Multiple readings Report – AI and Education Concern & critique · 2 attributable reactions Multiple readings Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board Concern & critique · 3 attributable reactions
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MIT AI education report published

Report – AI and Education

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Why this matches Concern & critique reaction 1 attributable expert contribution · Jane Rosenzweig
“New MIT report on AI calls for less emphasis on grades, more on project-based learning, recognition that programs for undergraduate research assistants are educational experiences that should not be replaced even if AI agents can do the research for less $$…” evidence ↗
10 experts 4 communities 1 sources clustered
Maria Antoniak Ted Underwood Grace Lindsay Damien Williams Eileen Clancy 🧿 Nicole Hennig Elizabeth Bonawitz Derek Willis +2
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Multiple readings

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Risks, limits and unintended consequences.

“New MIT report on AI calls for less emphasis on grades, more on project-based learning, recognition that programs for undergraduate research assistants are educational experiences that should not be replaced even if AI agents can do the research for less $$…”

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“AI and Education- MIT’s Ad Hoc Committee on AI Use in Teaching, Learning, and Research Training aiandeducation.mit.edu/report/ #AI #education (very comprehensive & foundational)”

3 experts discussed this · 21 posts
Ted Underwood: MIT report is superb. It acknowledges disruption, concedes different disciplines will handle this differently, foregrounds people and social interaction — but also says something obvious I had just…
Derek Willis: MIT report is superb. It acknowledges disruption, concedes different disciplines will handle this differently, foregrounds people and social interaction — but also says something obvious I had just…
Ted Underwood: The world changing is mainly a problem for students. It also changes our ability to evaluate students — but if that’s the primary/sole focus of our conversation, we’ve forgotten the mission.
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Developing Agents & robotics Development 1d ago
OpenAI agent message board discovered

Discovery of a new OpenAI agent message board

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Why this matches Concern & critique reaction 1 attributable expert contribution · Ted Underwood
“Yes we know for sure; independent evidence attached collusion.wiki But also, it should not be at all surprising: if you work with agents, it’s 100% about them leaving messages for each other, and for you, in English. Managing that is a regular workday for m…” evidence ↗
10 experts 5 communities 1 sources clustered
Ted Underwood Ethan Mollick Ryan Moulton Sung Kim Grace Eileen Clancy 🧿 thebes Fran Litterio +2
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Risks, limits and unintended consequences.

“Yes we know for sure; independent evidence attached collusion.wiki But also, it should not be at all surprising: if you work with agents, it’s 100% about them leaving messages for each other, and for you, in English. Managing that is a regular workday for m…”

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How teams are shipping and applying it.

“Another agent message board. So far, there isn't evidence that production models with guardrails collude in this way, but both smarter closed models (which may be less compliant) & Mythos-class open models (that can be ablated) are coming. Cybersecurity is …”

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Evidence, methods and technical implications.

“So... other swarms of OpenAI agents in training allegedly found a way to get write access to at least one and possibly many wikis to establish message boards to cheat on other training tasks? collusion.wiki news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4956...”

4 experts discussed this · 6 posts
Ted Underwood: As it becomes clear that language models—like humans—love passing notes to each other on message boards, I’m starting to think the thing we need to worry about is not the “alignment” of an isolated…
SE Gyges: fluid dynamics is about the correct metaphor, yes. if you are having to model high order terms precisely you're losing and your design needs fundamental rework
Arseny Khakhalin: That's a kinda terrifying thought haha :) I guess it's about time to unplug for the weekend and read about ragnarök and vacuum decay :)
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5 experts · 67 posts · 16d ago
Ted Underwood jake Shriram Krishnamurthi Arseny Khakhalin Singularity's Bounty e/cc
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“So while conceding the point in the QT, I need to say: I'm mostly, personally, concerned with academics' response to the technology. And I don't think it's okay for academics to have a world-model …” evidence ↗
Multiple readings Building & implementation · 1 Opportunity & adoption · 1 Questions & unknowns · 1
Ted Underwood: The recent popularity of the move to blame AI firms for ineffective *marketing* is mostly: a) a lot of people now realize they were wrong to spend 3 yrs insisting the tech was useless + b) “I was w…
Ted Underwood: A blunter way to explain 3 years of controversy: these products were and are genuinely problematic. Making hard problems easier is not useless. But it has very awkward effects on education and will…
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4 experts · 19 posts · 4h ago
Ted Underwood Tim Kellogg Scott McGrath Colin
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“keep in mind you’re experiencing selection bias — everyone you talked to already left the country” evidence ↗
Multiple readings Concern & critique · 1 Research & technical analysis · 1 Questions & unknowns · 1
Tim Kellogg: 8 very interesting plots regarding AI sentiment
Tim Kellogg: tbc these are opinions, and while it is a fact that someone had an opinion, an opinion doesn’t necessarily predict the future, even at scale
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6 experts · 23 posts · 11d ago
Mark Riedl Ted Underwood Pwnallthethings tachikoma B! 🐝 Cavello (they/them) brennan
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“the bottleneck is on LLMs being able to write/create interesting stories, which means conflict, which means not harmless (causing distress in the player) or honest (tricking the player) or helpful …” evidence ↗
Multiple readings Concern & critique · 1 Building & implementation · 1 Questions & unknowns · 1
Ted Underwood: People who know about game design: Do you think open-world procedural narrative on the fly is bottlenecked by hardware, or is it a situation where players just don’t in practice want the openness t…
Ted Underwood: Or are we already building that? I am kind of gaming illiterate beyond Sim City, Civ, and hazy memories of Bioshock.
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4 experts · 22 posts · 2d ago
Ted Underwood John Warner Jane Rosenzweig Singularity's Bounty e/cc
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“use AI has to be a conversation separate from how they are *likely* to use it. So if the likely is the worry, then you can either redesign assignments or let them use it. If the could is the intere…” evidence ↗
Multiple readings Building & implementation · 2 Research & technical analysis · 1 Questions & unknowns · 1
Ted Underwood: It’s important to me that my writing is *my* voice—warts and all. But I’m also not sure you can build a research discipline where the chief difference between an A paper and a C paper is “does this…
Ted Underwood: So I think a lot of debates about “whether to allow AI in writing classes” are fighting over the wrong part. We should be talking about how the nature of research in various disciplines can expand …
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4 experts · 39 posts · 17d ago
Ted Underwood Tim Kellogg brennan Nafnlaus 🇮🇸 🇺🇦
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“The models lack the ability to visually probe their designs like this. At the very least I think it's critical that we at least have them do non-manifold and intersection (incl. self-intersection) …” evidence ↗
Multiple readings Research & technical analysis · 1 Opportunity & adoption · 1 Questions & unknowns · 1
Tim Kellogg: my brother sent me this CAD model. i have no idea what it is, looks cool i guess. he said it took Opus 5 about 90 minutes to produce it. While there are errors, it would’ve taken a human engineer a…
Tim Kellogg: how do you know? you know what it is, with all the details he needs?
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5 experts · 17 posts · 16d ago
Ted Underwood Matthew Kirschenbaum Laura K. Nelson Andrea Lathrop D. Hicks
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“Totally agree & I also worry about the opposite: I think this email is clearly AI-generated so I'm going to dismiss it entirely. In those cases the person behind the email is the one affected, not …” evidence ↗
Multiple readings Concern & critique · 1 Policy & governance · 1 Opportunity & adoption · 1
Ted Underwood: I think it is possible to have this cake while eating it, thus: a) LLM text is often cogent and well-written. It is clearer and more concise than 99% of human text. (I used to teach writing.) b) Wh…
Ted Underwood: I do not want to read an email that the sender didn't write, or a blog post that they commissioned from model X--even if in my own work I find value in that same model. My rejection is not a judgem…
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3 experts · 14 posts · 1d ago
Ted Underwood Ramon Astudillo Tim Kellogg
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“there’s a higher-than-you’d-think possibility that this is actually a leak and not a prediction (pretty sure Andrew only bets when the dice are biased in his favor)” evidence ↗
Multiple readings Research & technical analysis · 1 Questions & unknowns · 1
Tim Kellogg: there’s a higher-than-you’d-think possibility that this is actually a leak and not a prediction (pretty sure Andrew only bets when the dice are biased in his favor)
Tim Kellogg: uh, i don’t think it’s as open as you’re thinking. pretty sure the IPO will happen before christmas, maybe within a month
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4 experts · 16 posts · 18d ago
Eugene Vinitsky Ted Underwood tweety fish brennan
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“Yeah. Agreed. I think this is a type of AI psychosis that I think people will get a handle on though and return to the expectation that their work is supposed to be good” evidence ↗
Multiple readings Concern & critique · 1 Policy & governance · 1 Opportunity & adoption · 1
Eugene Vinitsky: Very obviously the outcome of people mobbing those who publicly admit they use AI is everyone continuing to use it but hiding it
Eugene Vinitsky: This is a tool whose use is mostly unobservable. Solve for equilibrium
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3 experts · 17 posts · 2d ago
Ted Underwood Joshua Grochow Singularity's Bounty e/cc
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“Also I'm going to block you in a sec, but if I were taking this seriously I would attack "isn’t *performing* reasoning" hard. You've done nothing to demonstrate that it isn't performing reasoning, …” evidence ↗
Multiple readings Markets & investment · 1 Questions & unknowns · 1
Ted Underwood: LLMs are going to fundamentally change what scholarship is. Pumping out true propositions used to be a viable career. Now much of that can be offloaded, leaving scholars the tasks of understanding,…
Joshua Grochow: Re "Pumping out true propositions used to be a viable career." Even "back then" (i.e. last year? this year?) you still had to pump out true propositions *that other people were interested in*. What…
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4 experts · 13 posts · 9d ago
Eugene Vinitsky Ted Underwood Ryan Moulton Alex Gude
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“Do we understand why micropayments failed? I feel like I would gladly pay for an article but not the subscription.” evidence ↗
Multiple readings Concern & critique · 1 Policy & governance · 1 Markets & investment · 1
Ryan Moulton: Paying for internet content without putting a paywall in front of it is still, 40 years later, the central problem with the internet that remains unsolved.
Ryan Moulton: ~All media are non-rivalrous. There is no physical or technical reason to ever restrict access to any of it, except that we don't otherwise have any means to pay the creator.
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4 experts · 9 posts · 4d ago
Ted Underwood Mark J. Nelson Singularity's Bounty e/cc Nafnlaus 🇮🇸 🇺🇦
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“Yeah, I suppose I get a distorted view from the horror stories. It is good to read about profs who are doing interesting things with the technology. I shouldn't let the strong opinions obscure that.” evidence ↗
Multiple readings Research & technical analysis · 2 Concern & critique · 1
Singularity's Bounty e/cc: I think this must be a really bad time to be a college student. So much uncertainty in the future, and so much hostility and confusion around AI use, AI witch hunts It would be like going to cookin…
Ted Underwood: At most places students will have no difficulty finding courses that allow or indeed encourage AI use on advanced projects The profs who are most vocal On Here are those who experience it as a prob…
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4 experts · 13 posts · 11d ago
Ted Underwood Meredith Martin Aram Sinnreich Matthew L. Jones
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“As promised, stealing this idea. Will the fact that the essay is about cyborgs make the whole thing more awkward? Less so? Idk.” evidence ↗
Multiple readings Concern & critique · 1 Research & technical analysis · 1 Questions & unknowns · 1
Ted Underwood: As promised, stealing this idea. Will the fact that the essay is about cyborgs make the whole thing more awkward? Less so? Idk.
Ted Underwood: I think I will recommend that students use feedback not to “polish” or “correct” their first draft but to add dialectical tension and conflicting perspectives.
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